Taylor guitars (at least the 6 string models) always sound too 'tinny' for my liking....I appreciate more the depth of bass tones. I hadn't considered their 12 string models however and specifically not this 450 model but thanks for the tip!! I still haven't made any move yet every one of the pricey 50ish year old Martin D-12-35s are still listed for sale now months later and I'd say we have a stalemate on pricing........expectations are much higher than true market price in my humble opinion!! Thanks!! Jim C.