Originally Posted by: guitarplayer196Those are good lessons and threads on what modes are on how to play them, but still not clear on how us newer lead players actually use them in a practical music band situation -I am just coming from playing pentatonics and want to expand from there.[/quote]
If you want to know how to get from pentatonics to modes, then I suggest you look more closely at this tutorial:
http://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=770
In that tutorial I show how to use the first pentatonic box as a visual tool to see & play all seven diatonic modes. For example, here for lydian:
http://www.guitartricks.com/lesson.php?input=13430&s_id=770
Then, in the next lesson I play the patterns along with a backing track to give a practical example of how each visual pattern sounds & how stereotypical licks will sound.
http://www.guitartricks.com/lesson.php?input=13431&s_id=770
This is done for all seven modes, and then they are directly compared & contrasted later.
Originally Posted by: guitarplayer196There is a current thread modes in Music Theory, but after 8 pages of posts I am more confused than ever.
Please have a look at these threads:
http://www.guitartricks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29979
http://www.guitartricks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30690
[QUOTE=guitarplayer196]
Since the most common Major Chord progression in rock is a I IV V progression, can someone give me an example of how they would use a mode, such as a Lydian Mode(which has the flatted 5th) over a progression that the rest of the band is playing. Such as D(I) A(IV) G(V) - Can you refer to actual notes so I can see the relationship.
Assuming the key of D major:
D - I chord
G - IV chord
A - V chord
The modes of D major are based on the notes of the D major scale:
D ionian
E dorian
F# phrygian
G lydian
A mixolydian
B aeolian
C# locrian
So, if your music is only D (I) - G (IV) - A (V), then you can play the G lyidan mode over all of it & stress the chord tone of the current chord. Or you can think of playing the D ionian mode while the D chord is happening, the G lydian mode while the G chord is happening, then the A mixolydian mode over the A chord.
You can also play the E dorian mode, or the B aeolian mode, and so on. All of this simply means you are in the key of D major, of course.
You can also use modes in an ornamental manner. This means,
regardless of the actual key you play what mode you happen to desire the sound of at that point in the music.
So if you play D lydian over your D (I) - G (IV) - A (V) progression, you will be playing:
D - E - F# -
G# - A - B - C#
Notice that G# is not in the key of D major, and will therefore create a certain, specific dissonance. Especially when the G chord sounds.
How does one know when to use a mode in an ornamental manner? A manner that "goes against" the key, instead of being part of the key? Only by practicing them, becoming familiar with their sounds & fretboard patterns, in order to play the mode that you desire, when you desire "that specific" sound. And that is another place that my modes tutorials will be of assistance.
Make sense?
Christopher Schlegel
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