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10/15/2005 3:30 am
this may sound really noobie of me, but im looking to get MORE feedback out of my amp. i know how to control it with natural harmonics and all that, i just need to get it. could my amp be the problem? im using either a strat or sg through a fender frontman practice amp. i use a big muff, ds-1, and a crybaby for effects. please give me some tips(other than the obvious "turn your amp up and get really close"). thanks guys.
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10/15/2005 4:47 pm
Well what is feedback? It is the sound from the amp going through your guitar pickups and travelling back through the amp. So, the easiest thing to do is make it louder because thats what causes the feeback. I use a Dyna Comp to get my feeback.
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10/16/2005 2:19 am
Originally Posted by: Tele MasterWell what is feedback? It is the sound from the amp going through your guitar pickups and travelling back through the amp. So, the easiest thing to do is make it louder because thats what causes the feeback. I use a Dyna Comp to get my feeback.



thanks for commmenting. i have an understanding of what feedback is. and i know how to control it and use it. i also know that you should turn the volume down to about 1/2 before doing it for the sake of your amp. what i was asking was is it the amp im using.? get back to me.
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10/16/2005 6:47 am
You need a good bit of volume to get feedback on demand. Simple as that. Tube amps tend to be better at this.

BTW, care to elaborate on the turning the volume down 1/2 for the sake of the amp? :confused:
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10/16/2005 5:45 pm
I have the same basic setup as griefwearsgray. I have a squier strat, a fender frontman amp (mine's a 25r), and I even have a boss DS-1 distortion pedal. I can get pretty good distortion just by cranking the guitar and amp to full volume, setting the guitar so the neck pickup is the only one activated, and setting the tone for the neck pickup as low as it'll go. Then i just tap the headstock until i get this rumbly sound. It gets louder and louder, and then once you've got that, you can get different types of feedback by switching pickups and changing tone and hitting the whammy bar and stuff. Once you get it going like i described, you could also stomp on your DS-1, which could have a different tone or level set. It'd probly work good with the volume control on the DS-1 cranked. Also, play around with reverb and chorus, if you get the chance. I can get some pretty cool feedback sounds with my phase shifter and wah pedal. I've also read that being close isn't really as important as being at the right angle.
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10/16/2005 7:33 pm
Originally Posted by: PRSplaya. Tube amps tend to be better at this.

BTW, care to elaborate on the turning the volume down 1/2 for the sake of the amp? :confused:


i have the 25r frontman. what amp do you use? ive looked into tubes, but i can get crazy at practice, and crank up the volume really loud, so that kind of scared me as far as breaking a tube and all.

we all know that feedback is the sound of the amp going through the pickups and back into the amp. so, with that said, its taking the sound the amp is already making and doubling it by going through the amp. when you turn it to 1/2 it seems to level out the sound and not double it. if you keep the volume up all the way for a few times im sure it wouldnt exactly kill your amp, but doing it over long periods of time is where the trouble is. turning the volume down can prolong the amp, or so im told and have come to believe. if it doesnt, then i at least have some blind hope that it does. ignorance is bliss, right?

thanks guys.
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10/17/2005 1:18 pm
You have a lot to learn about amps and stuff. A frontman 25 is nowhere near as loud as say a Fender Blues Junior. Your not gonna break a tube by cranking it up. And feedback is not necessarily doubling the sound, actually its not at all doubling the sound. Just because the signal goes through twice doesn't mean it doubled.
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10/17/2005 8:05 pm
i made a mistake. i dont have a 25r. maybe i do but i cant see any numbers anywhere on the thing. i know its an old solidstate frontman from the original series. i realize the frontman is a practice amp and not to be compared to the blues junior or the bassman or any other fender amp. they are all different. i was asking to get more feedback from the practice amp so i could learn how to control it better. i know the gain and crap and volume as well. i understand amps. i was just asking for advice, thats what this site is for right.
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10/17/2005 9:27 pm
Originally Posted by: griefwearsgrayi made a mistake. i dont have a 25r. maybe i do but i cant see any numbers anywhere on the thing. i know its an old solidstate frontman from the original series. i realize the frontman is a practice amp and not to be compared to the blues junior or the bassman or any other fender amp. they are all different. i was asking to get more feedback from the practice amp so i could learn how to control it better. i know the gain and crap and volume as well. i understand amps. i was just asking for advice, thats what this site is for right.


You're never gonna get good controled feedback at low volumes...PERIOD

You shouldn't be afraid of turning up a tube amp, 'cause that's when the magic starts. Solid state vs. tubes isn't gonna matter as much when going for feedback. Volume and positioning are what makes the difference...having said that, tube amps do feedback easier at high volumes, but it isn't really hard to get feedback from solid state....sorry to say it, but volume and position are the biggest factors in creating good useable feedback...if anyone knows how to get a good useable feedback without effects at a low volume I would like to hear about it too! Good luck on this on Grief...
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10/18/2005 8:09 pm
Originally Posted by: 3fingeredbluesYou're never gonna get good controled feedback at low volumes...PERIOD

You shouldn't be afraid of turning up a tube amp, 'cause that's when the magic starts. Solid state vs. tubes isn't gonna matter as much when going for feedback. Volume and positioning are what makes the difference...having said that, tube amps do feedback easier at high volumes, but it isn't really hard to get feedback from solid state....sorry to say it, but volume and position are the biggest factors in creating good useable feedback...if anyone knows how to get a good useable feedback without effects at a low volume I would like to hear about it too! Good luck on this on Grief...


thank you. the reason i said the thing about turning up a tube is because i didnt know what the effect would be. i have a lot of time on solid state, but not too much on tubes, so i just wanted to know. thanks again.
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10/21/2005 5:32 am
hey. i have no i dea why but my line 6 spider II has abosolutely noooo feedback
can anyone tell me how to fix this little dilema :confused:
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10/21/2005 7:40 pm
Originally Posted by: tieranhey. i have no i dea why but my line 6 spider II has abosolutely noooo feedback
can anyone tell me how to fix this little dilema :confused:


it has a noise gate on it.... which cuts down on access noise and, consequently, feedback. if you still have the owners manual (if it came with one) it probably will say how to turn it off in it....
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10/23/2005 12:23 am
I get good feedback on my Spider II without doing anything special. The metal channel usually has the best feedback.
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10/23/2005 5:31 am
I feed back with my spider II all the time. you just gotta crank the gain, get the volume at a pretty decent amount, and throw the volume know on you guitar way up, then face your amp, put the guitar nice and close, and voila!

if you are running through a distortion pedal, get the gain nice and high. and I like my tone to be more towards the treble side of the spectrum, but that's up to you. experiment to your heart's content.


my problem is getting feedback when I don't want it. I was actually going to make a thread about it, asking for advice, but I suppose I can just ask here.

alright, so, we are at band practice, and I'm on a good crunch channel, playing rhythm. when I have a solo coming up, I switch to my lead settings on my OD-20, which is very high gain (though I have my level adjusted so that it's only a little louder then my rhythm channel). and as soon as I take my fingers off the strings, feedback... not the buzzing kind, I'm obviously going to get that... I mean the high pitch squeal thing that you are all talking about. I tried standing about 10 feet away from my amp, with my back facing it, and it still was feedbacking... as soon as I start playing, it's fine, and if I keep my hands on my strings, it's fine... but if I let go, it just wails! I suppose I could always adjust my settings... but I like the tone I found! someone told me that a compressor would help stop feedback, this true?
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10/24/2005 1:53 pm
I don't know if your looking for good sustain or actual feedback. Get you a low wattage tube amp (you'll be surprised how much louder they are compared to an equally powered solid state amp). You'll never go wrong. Fender blues junior or pro junior or something along those lines. You can pickup one of these amps for around $300.00 used. 15 watts of screaming (but not painful earsplitting) tone. If you've got about 450.00 to 500.00 to spend the little Gold Tone gibson 5 watter is sweet. The reason is as you crank the amp the rectifier tube and output tranny will sag in voltage alittle and then slope back up causing the sound to sustain longer. Some people describe this as a "spongey" sound. This is especially noticable on lower frequency notes. Speaking of harmonics, tubes pass more of the ear pleasing even ordered harmonics which just doesn't happen with soilid-state (silicon) devices. I play through a '73 fender vibro champ. It's a 6 watt, all tube, tone monster that makes my orange 15r (which I use for headphone playng) sound like a waste of electronics. It's also at least twice as loud.

Now if you really like mind blowing tone and feedback (i'm talking hendrix like feedback) get a Fender hot rod deluxe. 40 watts of which Pete Townsend would have to turn down. I owned one for about 2 weeks and took it back because I was afraid I was gonna break MY NEIGHBORS windows!! With a 10ft cord you'll get insanely uncontrollable feedback at around 5 on the gain and 2 on the volume.
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04/02/2018 7:08 am

In Robin Trower's "Daydream", he has two sustained feedbacks. I live with people and near people and managed to preserve my hearing through the 60's (with wads of tissue paper. Thank you, long hair for covering them up). How loud do I have to go? Also, Trower doesn't seem to turn toward his amps, so I need some basic pointers about how to produce the feedback. I do have a tube amp and a Line 6 guitar for this purpose.


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04/02/2018 7:41 am
Originally Posted by: gbowerman

In Robin Trower's "Daydream", he has two sustained feedbacks. I live with people and near people and managed to preserve my hearing through the 60's (with wads of tissue paper. Thank you, long hair for covering them up). How loud do I have to go? Also, Trower doesn't seem to turn toward his amps, so I need some basic pointers about how to produce the feedback. I do have a tube amp and a Line 6 guitar for this purpose.

I assume the person who posted this thread originally has had an answer to this question as it's a 13 year old thread but if you are still needing some advice gbowerman I would check out a pedal made by BOSS called the FB-2


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04/23/2018 5:33 pm

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